Monday, August 4, 2008

Abuse/Self-Abuse

Abuse/Self-Abuse

Find an abusive situation that occurs in your book, whether the abuse is self-inflicted or caused by another person. For example: cauliflower ear would be self-inflicted while child abuse is caused by another character. Find and quote that example.
1. How do you think abuse affects people later on in life?
2. How does a character in your book overcome the abuse?
3. Do you think that the person doing the abusing can overcome that habit?
4. Where have you seen abuse occur in our generation?


Written by Quinten and Russ

18 comments:

brandon said...

I have been around people that have been abused for no reason. It is a sad thing to see. Most of the abusers are the people that the victim is dating. It is even sadder when the victim loves the person so much that they still can’t let them go. In the book “Our America” there is alot of abuse. Janelle Jones, LeAlan Jones’ sister was in an abusive relationship. She would get beat and didn’t do anything about it for a while. She one day decided that enough was enough and left the dude that beat her. She decided to get her life together for her child. This is a good example of an abusive relationship. This could be hope for someone because not everyone that leaves an abusive relationship decides to get back on their feet right away. Sometimes it takes a little time. you just have to believe that y9ou deserve better and fight back.

devin ashley said...

An abuse which happened in Stranger than Fiction is self abuse when the wrestler cause self inflicted pain on himself by giving himself cauliflower ear. I think abuse effects people later on in life because they become use to it. Most people who experience pain either become very self reliant or the complete opposite and are scarred of everything. A character in my book does not overcome the abuse. He keeps abusing himself in order to maintain his cauliflower ear. I do think that the person who is inflicting pain on himself can overcome it; I just think he chooses not to. He doesn’t have to beat himself in the ear constantly but he does it for his wrestling reputation. Abuse occurs everywhere in our generation. You see abuse in schools, on the streets and on the news.

Young Moss said...

In my book, Stranger Than Fiction, the wrestlers purposely try to get cauliflower ear. This in the world of wrestling is a sign of hard work and a battle scar that every wrestler wants. "To most wrestlers, cauliflower ear is like a tattoo, it's like a status symbol."
Later on in life for the wrestlers they will regret it because its not something you try to get. It's like a drug to them. Wrestling is there high. They don't overcome it.
If they come to relize before it is too late that what there doing is hurting them in the long run then they can overcome the habit. The abuse literaly with women letting men hit them becasue the man says he loves her.Abuse when teens are addicted to drugs and can not stop. It's sad to see but that is how the world is.

Jarryd said...
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Rakisha ReNee' said...

There has been a lot of abuse going on throughout the book Our America. In this situation the abuse was self- inflicted upon. Lloyd’s father Chilly was an alcoholic and abused his health. His father was supposed to recover from alcohol in 1993 and here it is now 1996, and his father has damaged his brain cells. He also only has 30% of his liver left from drinking so much. I think this has affected the person later on in life because he is not able to see his kids or can he live his life for a very long time. His father has really damaged his body and it’s really nothing that anybody can do. The character in my book doesn’t recover from his abuse. I have seen a lot of abuse in my generation. From sexual abuse, to physical abuse. I have seen it on television and in person. I believe that any type of abuse is wrong whether you are doing it to yourself or somebody is doing it towards you.

Carlos said...

A character that commits abuse is Lloyd's father Chill. He inflicts abuse on himself. He drinks himself sick everyday. I think he looks like a good guy. His abuse with alcohol is something that has affected his children. As a result of this his sisters have been forced to raise him. This affects Lloyd because he has no real father figure next to him. Chilly used to be a good father who took care of everyone until his wife died. I think that he can overcome his abuse and be a good father again. "I don't understand why I'm drinking. So many situations that I see makes me nervous. It's a worrisome world now. It ain't like it used to be....

The abuse I have seen is people working and getting paid low wages. Many Mexican people that I know have to work for low wages and no benefits at all. They really aren't asking for much, but I think their work should be valued much more. Many of those people who are underpaid are also getting ripped off. Since many of them don't know how to read the pay stubs they are not getting paid for many hours that they worked.

fashioncrzy said...

"What happens is,as you rub and ruhb ,the abrasion ,the cartilage separates from the skin,and in that separation,blood and fluid fills it up. After a while ,it drains out, but the calcium will solidfy on the cartlage. A lot of wrestlers see it as a kind of badge of wrestling, a necessary badge of wrestling."
1. being abused can make the out the person your going to be as much as you want to fight it is still something that had a major downfall on you so it going to try and control your life.
2. The charater in the book doesnt really overcome it, he still proceeds to keep it going, because his kind of abuse makes sense and has a really good meaning to it.
3.i think some people doing the abuse was probably abuse them selves but if they really work hard at it they can overcome it, but there are some people who really can't help them selves. this is why they sometimes need people to help them.
4.i've seen alot from televsionand it showed me from realtionship abuse to pet abuse and child abuse,and our community sometimes abuses the world by the poulltion, and global warming.

Ange said...

In my book stranger than fiction, the chapter where meat comes from tells a short story about wrestler’s lives. Although the chapter is about wrestlers rolling around in the ring trying to pin each other down, they do more than just fight in the ring, they inflict pain on themselves more than their opponent. They train all 12 months of the year, and their diets drastically changed because to them their not “in shape’ unless they basically starve themselves. But that’s not the self inflicting pain I’m talking about. On page 9 Petersen, says “I had one teammate who, before he’d go to bed, he’d sit there and punch his ear for ten minutes. He wanted cauliflower ear so bad.” That type of pain is unnecessary even for a wrestler. But to an athlete like wrestlers, cauliflower is like “a badge of honor”. Wrestlers inflict pain on themselves like this because that’s their way of living. They don’t see what they are doing to themselves in and outside the ring is abuse to them. Not to mention it’s not good for their health. In my high school the wrestlers had a lot of pride in their sport, did all they had to do in order to be the best they could be, but they would never inflict the type of pain some of the wrestlers do in my book.

Russell Niquette said...

In the book Stranger Than Fiction there are some abusive situations. For example Palahniuk discuses the people who abuse steroids in the chapter Frontiers. In it the man that he was helping his friend dissect had taken steroids many times over his life, thus causing his heart to be larger than normal as the book described it “Our third cadaver was a sixty year old physician. He had the muscle mass of a man in his twenties, but when we opened his chest, his heart was almost the size of his head.” In the book, the unnamed man never got over his steroid abuse and it helped to cause his death. I think that the man could have overcome him abusing steroids if he worked hard on it and tried to stop; instead he just kept taking them and helped to accelerate his death.
In my own personal life I have seen two kinds of abuse in my life: drug, and steroid. The drug users are desperate for the chance to get high off whatever drug they are taking and I saw one go to the hospital one day. The steroid users however do not know the damage they are doing to themselves and they can get violent if you try to get them to stop in their pursuit of bigger, stronger, and faster. One however is now off steroids because his days of sports are done, another however is still taking them trying to get onto their college's football team.

Quinten said...
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tajahammons1 said...

In "Our America”, the only physical abuse that occurred where fights. There was a lot of verbal and mental abuse. Abuse can affect people later in life because they can come out of the situation that once occurred. In “Our America” Lloyd’s father Chill came out of an abusive relationship with alcohol. He overcame his abuse by going to rehab for the sake of his children. I have seen abuse happen physically, mentally, and emotionally. I have watched fights happen; I have watched people abuse their bodies with drug and alcohol, and I have heard people abuse someone else emotionally.

Mark Asato said...

“I didn’t enjoy it when my parents were fighting at all. I was horrified and traumatized by it…” (STF pg. 133) In the chapter, Why Isn’t He Budging, Andrew Sullivan had parents who argued all the time at his house. They would slam doors, yell, and his father got drunk and started fights. This affected the charter in a negative way at first, because he was very scared of going home. He said that his parents almost every day had arguments over the smallest things. He then began to go to church, and he found role models there, because he saw how easily they could get over bad things. This had helped him overcome his difficult home life, and he looked up to many people. He admired people who were positive and who could get through difficult times.
I do not think that the person who is doing the abusing cannot overcome the habit. The reason they cannot is because that they have been doing this their entire life, and will not be able to change. Usually the abuser starts abusing others is because in their childhood, they have experienced this and do not know any other way to handle things. It would not be easy for them to change their habit, because this is the only thing that they know. I have seen self-abuse with two friends of mine. They are in an underground fight club and they do it to make money. They go fight and get hurt to make a pretty good some of money. I do not think that it is worth it, because sometimes they get severely hurt and yet they still continue to do this.

sweettea said...

"If everyone jumped off the cliff would you" In the chapter Frontiers the characters Ed and Bill are bodybuilders and the are addicted to steroids. ALL types of abuse affects people throughout their whole life. yes i do think that people can overcome the habit, things like family and chiildren make people want to better themselves. Today people are invovled in all sorts of abuse from drugs to physical abuse, and i don't think thats something can be stopped no time soon.

Jarryd said...

Lloyd's father Chill was an alcholic "I...I don't understand why I'm drinking"
1.I think with drug/alchohol abuse it can physically effect you pretty bad depending how much you abuse whatever you're doing.
2. He says he's entering rehab.
3.yes, if he puts his mind to it,and commits to rehab.
4. I have seen people abuse alot of drugs like marijuana and ecstasy, but mainly ecstasy because to some marijuana is not a drug.

Quinten said...

In my book “The Last American Man” Eustace’s father becomes very abusive towards Eustace’s mother. “If you have a problem with me…approach me with it, NOT her”
I think abuse of any sort has an affect on people when they are older. Maybe they themselves become more aggressive and abusive. Maybe they become depressed and untrusting of others. There is no good that can come from abuse. I don’t think anyone really ever overcomes abuse. It’s always with them. People can try and forget but it will always be in the back of their mind. I do feel that some people, abuse is a habit. I think like most habits they themselves can overcome the abusing. I think we’ve all seen abuse on TV, but in my own personal experience I have seen the effects of self inflicted abuse. She came to me and said she had a problem. I tried to do a lot to help her overcome it. For her it wasn’t to get attention or be part of a crowd, she really had a problem. It really hit me to see how someone can do something once and not be able to stop. I've also seen the affects of drinking on people i've known. Some people just dont know when to quit...
There really is no need for abuse in the world.

shawn said...

in my novel my characters mother gives a brief hint that she was emotionally abused. she said she was afraid of her husband. her husband seem to love nothing more than egging his children on to make fun of their mother by calling her a "big fat hippo."

1) i beleive abuse of any kind is something that can effect a person both mentally and physically later on in life.

2)I dont beleive she ever truly overcomes that abuse.

3)I honestly dont beleive that the father could overcome his abusive habbit, i believe he is to stuck in his ways.

4)I personally have seen abuse through my aunts, and ive seen how it has effected them. that has made me vow to treat my wife, or even girlfriend for that matter with the love and respect she deserves.

Adam said...

In my book Stranger than Fiction the author describes a situation of him getting a piece of metal washer stuck around his finger. He waited until his finger was swollen before he told his father. When he told his father he said when you do stupid things you should be ready to pay the price then his father thought he would teach him a lesson by telling him he would chop of his finger. “My father swung the ax, and of course he missed.” This was a form of abuse because there are other ways to teach your children a lesson but this method was extreme. As a result of this the author learned that he shouldn’t blame people for stupid things that you do. I think that the author’s dad can overcome his abusive ways if he just found another way to teach his son lessons. I’ve seen abuse in many ways, from domestic to just violent abuse in the street. Abuse is happening everywhere around us.